When Dd Is Not Fair
February 11, 2008 by Sara
Southern Angel, I wanted to respond to your comment in more depth. Here it is.
I have never found a satisfactory answer of how to deal with it when he messes up. The most common answer I have gotten is to forgive him but that doesn’t make sense to me. Why does he get off with quick forgiveness and I have to take a spanking? Or, the wife will say that there is a time where she doesn’t feel close to him, the disconnect you have spoken of. But that also seems unfair since then you both suffer. I don’t want to spank him but I think it is unfair for me to have to live to higher standards than he does.
Southern Angel, I think you make some excellent points and ask important questions. It took me time to be assured that women in Dd marriages are not doormats, unthinking or subservient women (unless they choose to serve, another issue entirely). For the most part we are intelligent, self assured, introspective, capable and often educated. We freely choose to structure our primary relationship in this way.
With that out of the way, I think the idea of “fair” truly has no place in a Dd marriage. As the saying goes ‘we did not sign up for fair’. We agreed to a power dynamic where the two partners are of equal value, but have different degrees of power in the relationship, and different responsibilities as well. When all is said and done, Grant decides for me, for us, and for our family a disproportionate number of issues. If we cannot agree his opinion weighs in more heavily than mine. He tells me what to do, has expectations and makes rules that I do not always get to vote on. I have a voice, and he is good at listening. That is so important because when the power dynamic is unequal, the partner with less power really needs to feel she is heard! Nothing makes me more unhappy than feeling unheard. But after we talk, and whether I agree or not, he decides. That is unfair, but it is what we agreed to, and it works for us.
As to the unfairness of what happens when he does something wrong. I struggled as you have with the idea that it was unfair that I get punished and he doesn’t. Except, he never asked to be punished, says he truly does not feel the need for punishment, and our dynamic inherently demands that I answer to him. Grant does not answer to me. He respects me, he considers me, he cherishes me, but he does not answer to me. For the Dd to work, I had to allow him that authority, that superior position in our marriage, and the responsibilities that go along with that. Mostly, I had to learn to trust him to do his best to do the right things, and to decide to simply forgive him when he messes up.
Could this be a recipe for disaster? Absolutely! Dd is not right for every couple. There are many women who want to hand over that control badly, but will not or cannot take the leap of faith it requires. It is hard! There are just as many men who, frankly, are not capable of taking that kind of leadership role, nor do they really want it. They like being ‘in charge’, but focusing on putting their wife and marriage ahead of their own needs on a daily basis is a tall order. If the husband is entrusted with power he misuses, obviously the marriage will not work well.
I have seen Grant struggle along with me to improve his self control, his behaviors, his relationship skills. We are very much in this marriage together. For us it is not about Grant knowing more than me, being better than me, or fixing me. We both bring a lot to the table and have different strengths. I feel he appreciates mine. Perhaps being a woman, and perhaps just being who I am, I tend to be more emotional. I can much more easily get off track with my assessment of a situation between us. He is better at rational assessment. That seems to allow him to be ‘right’ more often than I am when there are relationship issues between us. It does not always mean I am wrong, but I do get way more emotional about things, and Grant usually has an ability to see more clearly, unencumbered by the intensity of his emotions.
When he does mess up, he does take responsibility. Sometimes that takes time which is a frustration for me, but I have seen many men similarly need to take time to process before they are able to see what they have done, let alone apologize. There is little more aggravating than hearing him use a curse word I am not permitted to say. He really tries not to. He intellectually agrees he should not require of me what he does not do himself. He still slips. Several times when he has done so, I have said “Oh, so I assume now I am allowed to say %^*# when I get mad?” he always looks at me and says “No. you are not!” and he stops. Does it make me mad? Yes! Does he try not to? Yes! Will it happen again? I am sure. Would I get spanked if I cursed? Yes! It is not fair, but is what we agreed to.
We had a marriage where we both self moderated. We functioned independently, and had not nearly the closeness or intimacy. I guess it helps me to remember that the underlying agenda is for Grant and I to function as a unit. For the daily choices to be those that support US rather than ME or HIM. In our case that meant I gave up the power to decide many things, and he took it on. That means for both of us we have to work hard to focus on what is best for the two of us, rather than for either of us independently. It means we sometimes need to rise above who is right or wrong, and try to do what is best for us together.
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Sara, this was very well written. I read the whole thing to my husband because we could relate to so much of it. I really liked what you said about Grant struggling along with you to improve his behaviors and such. I watched Joe as well work at improving several things along with my improvements. That is what makes me feel like we have a partnership instead of a dictatorship. Like Grant does for you, Joe is willing to put the effort forth to be who he needs to be for me. Again, wonderful post!
Hugs,
Lori
Dear Sara,
I do understand when you speak about the dynamics of Power being in my favor. I think you know that this Power imbalance also comes with an imbalance of responsibility for different issues concerning our relationship and the family. I have to always check that what goes on is in the best interests of security and emotional health of us as a couple and also the impact on the family.
I do appreciate you understanding that I do try hard to improve myself. This lifestyle has given me motivation to improve myself, in our relationship, as well as with my relationships with our children and extended family. Yes, I did say extended family, for most of us have them for good or for ill. I have improved my handling of extended family by making decisions in those relationships that protect and nurture what we have, i.e the nucleus of our family–me, you, and our children.
Love,
Grant
Hi Sara,
I am sorry it has taken so long for me to post but I was caught up in my birthday celebration. LOL. I am planning on reading this post several times because it is so well written and I really want to digest it. I am coming to the conclusion, though, that maybe JD and I aren’t cut out to have a strict d/d relationship. There are times when this type of relationship works well for us but then there are times when I have to have fairness in our relationship. And there are times when JD puts himself first in a way that is not good for our relationship. But that doesn’t mean it can’t work for other couples.
It is obvious to me that you and Grant have this whole situation worked out and that it works well for you. I do enjoy reading about your family and appreciate you taking the time to write this post just to answer my questions.
Lori, thank you so much!
Grant, it is our efforts and growth, together, that makes it all work.
S. Angel, I understand your doubts. At the risk of sounding ancient, I want to remind you that Grant and I are old enough to be your parents (Oh yuck!
LOL). I am 50 and Grant is 56. I pretty much know at 27, when we married, “fair” made sense to me too. I also know at 33, Grant was not self assured enough to put me first in the way he can now We have matured a lot in the past 23 yrs, thank goodness! I think you guys are doing great. Just continue to love and grow together. Things often come when they are right, and you are ready.
Sara