I should be on Oprah?

We’re in Florida for a couple of weeks, which allows Grant and I some much-needed couple time. We both are working remotely, but there’s plenty of time for daily walks on the beach, puttering, shopping, movies, yeah, some spanking, and just…hanging out.

I discovered an outlet mall nearby that had a store I really wanted to visit, and Grant is great about taking me to those places and waiting while I fulfill my archaic need to forage.
I was finally at the check-out when the woman at the register, a gal in her late 40’s, engaged me in a discussion. She remarked on my ring. She admired it and I thanked her. She told me I was very lucky. I agreed then added, “The ring was a gift from my husband on our 25th wedding anniversary.” She literally stopped wrapping and gawked at me:

“You have been with the same man for over 25 years? I. can’t. even. imagine! How do you DO that?”
“Well, um, it’s not easy! We’re both very stubborn! To get through that many years you have to be willing to go though some really good times and some really bad times. You love and maybe even hate, and you play and fight, and you just don’t walk away.”
“Wow! THAT is amazing. You two should be on Oprah!”
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I think that is pretty amazing. I think it’s amazing that we are a rarity. I think it’s mind-boggling that the benefits of sticking it out, honoring vows, putting integrity, hard work, family values over temporary happiness is considered unique. Don’t get me wrong. I understand that people divorce for good reasons and sometimes there really is no other choice. I’ve in fact seen both sides of that coin.

However, the benefits of working through the toughest times and making it through to the other side are sweet. We have each other. I live with a man who has known me and loved me for close to 33 years. We’re also beginning to see that we provide a foundation for our family, for the children and grandchildren to come. Our older son said to us a number of months ago, “I really respect you guys, and what you’ve put into your marriage. I am learning that relationships are really hard work, and now that I get that, I have a better understanding of what you’ve been through to make your marriage work. I truly admire that. You’ve set an example for us kids.” Wow!

Our older son is newly engaged. He did in fact ask his girl on New Year’s Eve to become his bride and she accepted. His life is changed and our family life is changed. That’s been a new experience, expanding our family circle, forming new bonds, and parenting in new ways. More and more it seems it’s what we do and not what we say that matters. My soon to be daughter-in-law is looking to me for adult parenting. Our son is looking at us to find his way. They want to walk a similar path, one of long-term commitment and deep love. And yes, they’ll have some very rough times too. I’m going to try not to watch those parts, and Grant is already helping me keep boundaries.

My son has fought being like his father almost every day of his life since he was an early teen. Their relationship has been difficult. And yet…every day he acts more and more like his father. Even his fiancé has seen it and remarked on it. She’s a quieter young woman than I was, more willing to be led, and yet, when all 4’10” of her gets riled, when she gets fired up, watch out! He’ll have his hands full, and he’ll deserve every minute of it too! She’s tiny while he’s a large man, 6’1” with extra broad shoulders. I’ve seen him, in laughing exasperation, pick her up and simply throw her over his shoulder when she gets stubborn and he’s done. I think they’re in it for the long haul and I hope she gives him a good run for his money! ;)

31 thoughts on “I should be on Oprah?

  1. Wow you sound happy and content.Good for you .

    Probably told you many times how I loathed acting for divorcing couples and gave it up for good old clear cut child protection.I can kind of ‘get’ hitting a child in anger. It was the cases where there was no discernable reason that depressed me. I had to fashion it into a ‘ground’ for divorce…some just said ‘oh, make it up…I’ll just sign on the dotted line ‘.Blimey did they really set out with that half baked approach.Surely not?!

    Sounds like your son is beginning to realise what the real deal is.We’re not there yet insofar as Peter is regarded as the butt of the kids jokes.When I suggest he’s in charge they say how SILLY….presumably in the context of them regarding his main purpose in life being to put out the bin and feed the cats in the morning (on no, actually I do that….).Mind you at least he can ‘take it’ and we have alot of fun.

    We’re 20 years married on 10 July. When it comes to anniversaries Peter is lightyears ahead of me.So who knows??

    Anyway, must go.Got lots of work but a snow day here.Kind of can’t be bothered and keep getting interesting E mail alerts about NY attractions etc (sigh) Sarah,LD,UK

  2. Congrats on your expanding family! She sounds like a lovely addition:)

    The words from your son…how special!

    We’ve been lucky enough to witness that sort of hard work, love and commitment in our parents’ marriages. It’s sad that it’s seen as such a rare thing. You guys really have given your kids a great example…more like a priceless gift! It’s one that we endeavor to give to our children too:)

  3. I’ve seen quite a few long lasting marriages in this part of Blogland. Makes you wonder what came first: long marriages or DD.

  4. It is, indeed, sad that long marriages are seen as a rarity, although many of our close friends have marriages even longer than ours – we were really old getting married at 25 and 26! Perhaps working hard at a marriage is something we were brought up to do, and perhaps the young with ‘quickie’ divorces have it easier today, and so don’t work as hard at it. Who knows? All I know is that I pledged to love, honour and obey. It just took me over thirty years to understand what that entailed. And I’ve just very very thankful that I realised it in time!

    Many hugs, Ami

  5. It is sad how longevity in a marriage is seen as a rarity now days. To actually be told you should be on Oprah says it all doesn’t it?

    You are a great example to your kids. What your son said to you was so lovely and testament to that fact.

    Congrats on your extending family. Your son’s fiance sounds a lot like me. Look out when I an riled LoL

    Hugs
    Roz

  6. Sarah, I am happy, and it feels great! And yes, I am watching this young couple begin to understand and grow. It’s kind of cool!

    We pass on more to our kids than we realize Tess. I’m learning that more and more. They watch us!

    I have seen more longevity in blogland too Bas, although I think it has less to do with DD and more to do with traditional values.

    Ami, I had Grant take “Obey” out of our vows 27 years ago!

    Roz, she is lovely. Submission is a wonderful thing, but IMO any woman worth her salt should be a danger when riled! ;)

  7. I’ve been married 15 yrs, and lots of our neighbors have been married much, much longer than that. It does happen–in fact, for millions of people.

    Too bad not for her or her friends.

    We’ve had some rocky times, though, in the sorting out of who’s in charge. I think you have to sort that out properly in order to have a satisfying, romantic relationship.

  8. We’ll celebrate our 20th anniversary this year. My parents will celebrate their 47th. And we know a lot of people who have been together for the long haul. But we also know plenty of people who were married for a little while and then split up and some who hop from relationship to relationship or whose relationship is on again off again. I think I actually know more people who have been together for awhile than ones who haven’t though, so I guess I don’t think of it as a novelty. Sad that for some it is. Unfortunately, some people really don’t have an example of a good long term relationship to look at and try to learn from and model. I’m very blessed.

    Anyway, I’m glad that you and G are enjoying a little get away. It sounds like you’re starting to connect more, which is wonderful. I hope you’re having nice weather. It’s COLD here. Brrrrr!

    And congratulations on the addition to your family! It must be interesting watching the dynamic between your son and future daughter in law. I don’t think I’m prepared for that sort of thing yet, but thankfully my kids aren’t to that stage yet anyway. ;)

  9. IT is a sad commentary that 25 years is so rare. Expanding families is a cause to rejoice…as a mother in law to a ‘son’ and ‘daughter’…good luck…and enjoy. more love to pass around!
    hugs abby

  10. It’s a sad commentary on society today that long marriages are considered news worthy. It’s hard work sometime, but oh so worth it, I think. Congrats on the soon to be daughter-in-law, she sounds like a real gem :)

  11. You and Grant have set a beautiful example for your kids. It’s good that you are also hearing it from them! We’re still at the stage where we must be the most stupid freaks on the planet!😏
    Congratulations on the upcoming family expansion! I actually get along better with my mother-in-law than with my own mom most of the time. She gives me space, and we share some hobbies, but she doesn’t offer too much unsolicited advice.
    Enjoy your mini-vactation, and take a walk on the beach for me!😊

  12. I agree Strong Man. It took us a long time to understand that there should be roles, and that there was nothing wrong with that!

    It’s lovely to be in a warmer climate Grace, and yes, Grant and I are starting to connect more. Luckily, you don’t have to be worried about such things as engagements yet. When it happens, ready or not, you’ll get ready!

    Abby, “more love to ass around”. I like it!

    It IS sad faerie, and I think it’s one huge attraction of this community, the commitment to marriage that we all share.

    D. You will get smarter as they get older…I promise! :) I hope to have a close relationship with my future daughter in law and am already working on that.

  13. Sarah, I’ve been married 32 years and there have certainly been some very difficult times. Marrying early we both had to learn who we were and that created some disconnection at times. However, I can say with conviction that we were meant to be together and to stay together. One of the big things that help us when communication wires gets crossed (and they still do) is to remind the other that our intentions are always good. We may need to give one another half a day to get over upset feelings but we find our way back to one another quickly now. I’ve learned to understand what he is thinking when he over re-acts and I think this is key. I feel sure that you’ll be fine.

  14. The long haul can be very very very difficult.
    And it can be very very very worth it. Congrats to you both! Glad you’re getting away-even with work it’s a nice change of pace. Thanks for all you share here-the example for me, as well as your children.

  15. Both of my sons are married so I now have two ‘daughters of my heart’. Congratulations Sara, from what you’ve written you will soon have a ‘daughter of your heart’. What a lovely compliment your son gave to you and Grant.

    Blessings,
    Cat

  16. Sara,

    You sound in a good place. Makes happy reading.

    Congratulations to your son and his future bride and of course to you and Grant.

    Enjoy the break.

    Love,
    Ronnie
    xx

  17. Well…I have to admit that when I read the title of the post, my first thought was, “Boy, Oprah would have a heyday with Sara.” Then I thought, “NO, Sara would have a heyday with Oprah.”

    Young love is awfully sweet, but then, as you just proved, so is “old” love. :)

  18. “One of the big things that help us when communication wires gets crossed (and they still do) is to remind the other that our intentions are always good” Wise words Vesta, TY! (And no worries about the h!)

    Saoirse , yep…very hard and very worth it!

    “A daughter if my heart”, that’s charming Cat!

    Thanks Ronnie, I finally feel more myself after many many months.

    Susie, as tempting as it might sound, I think I’ll skip the Oprah show!

  19. This was a good follow up to your last post. You have faced some struggled but you have stayed together. Congrats.

    FD

  20. Sara, for lots of reasons, you two are my heroes. That young lady sounds like a great match for your son and I hope the wild ride is mostly fun, like a roller coaster.

  21. Sara I’m intrigued with the refusal to obey? I was wondering how you feel about that now you live in a different dynamic. I didn’t want to say those words, but the clergyman said he wouldn’t marry us otherwise, and at the time I remember feeling quite pressured into it. Yet now, looking back, I’m glad I said them. It’s just that I ended up unknowingly being such a witch for years – well, I just wish I had known then what I know now. Because now, it is so much more difficult to be truly submissive. I’ve tried to lead for so long. Just developing a more submissive mind-set is hard isn’t it? We come home from powerful jobs, and we need a bit of ‘running down time’ when we walk in that door.

    Your prospective daughter in law sounds lovely. I’m glad she has some fire though. I remember when you told us about your son buying the ring. It’s stayed in my mind. Two things were said between our young people this Christmas. Our son is doing up an old cottage where he plans to move with his girl friend when it becomes habitable. His intention is to marry, but not until he is able to provide a proper home for them both. However, my daughter is a newly wed. Our new son in law stood in our kitchen, looked our son in the eye and said “So you’re all set up to become head of the household then?” Starman and I couldn’t help glancing at each other knowingly. Our son replied, “Too right I am.” I nearly hyperventilated on the spot. I think I had to pretend to choke in case I laughed out loud in astonishment. Of course, I could have been fantasising, but both of them are very forceful young men, so who knows.

    Enjoy your holiday – you’ve earned it!

    Many hugs, Ami

  22. Congratulations on your son’s engagement. She sounds lovely and like she will fit right in.

    I agree completely that the model of our marriage is more important as they get older. That was one of the driving forces behind my bringing Dd to Alex. The marriage we were modeling for our children was completely dysfunctional and I could not let that continue for them. We needed to show them that we were working on our marriage even though we had gone through tough times. Now they get to see parents that are working on it and everyone is happier. Kids notice everything and it is great to feel that what we are doing is worth noticing.

  23. You’re back! I saw a “Sara” commenting on a few blogs, and I thought someone new had joined the blogging community. Then I saw it was you, and I was so happy! I rushed right over to see how you were doing.

    I’m so, so glad to hear from you.

  24. I appreciate the nod FD!

    Thanks Mick. We make up a mutual admiration society!

    Ami, at the time when I told Grant I wanted “Obey” taken out of the vows, I was a 28 year old professional woman full of my feminist ideals and certain of the equality of the genders. I had NO CLUE what marriage would be like, and frankly neither did Grant. We were children of the 60′s and 70′s…Neither Grant nor the Rabbi who married us objected. It took us both a year or two to use the “O” word even with Dd. He liked “cooperate” rather than “obey” and “consequence” rather than “punish”. We’ve come a very long way!

    Zoe, I do think kids see everything, and come to understand what they saw more and more as they mature. We are setting them up for choices they will make in their lives whith the ones we make in ours. Kinda scary!

    Thanks Ana! It feels good to be back!

  25. Hmm daughter-in-laws are a tricky business. I have three and we are very close, mostly because I never take my sons side. I mean never. We have issues that we work out between us girls but I let them carve out their own territory. Glad you are doing well.

  26. Sara,
    This is very interesting. My son, 6’3″ to 4″ (don’t know anymore) just married his love, who is 4’11″. They are so cute, but he said he gets some accusing looks that silently scream, “pervert”.
    On our recent holiday, we had the experience of being treated like celebrities because it came up that we were married for 28 years. The locals were flabbergasted. It was interesting, because we come from families where divorce is not unheard of, but certainly not common or appreciated by the elders.
    I see my husband in my son constantly, more as he grows older. He hasn’t exactly fought it, although he has said to me on more than one occasion, “I can’t work with that man, Mum, he is just too damned opinionated.” I just smiled and thought about pots accusing kettles.
    hugs
    and so nice to see you back,
    lillie

  27. Bea, an older friend who has several daughter-in-laws told me there are 2 rules:
    1) Don’t get involved in their busines
    2) be generous
    I do want to be a good MIL. So far so good! :)

    Yes Lillie, pots and kettles do tend to rub each other the wrong way, don’t they? ;)

  28. I always have such interesting discussions with retail clerks. Love to forage as well. I think husbands that indulge us in our “archaic” needs, “do their part” to keep the marriage happy- for sure!
    Congrats on your son’s engagement! (am I repeating myself? It’s just such happy news!)
    Interesting how you say that his fiance ‘looks to you for adult parenting’. I think it is also seeking insight as to how your son “ticks”. I’m sure there is plenty that they know about each other, but there’s always more to learn. As we each say on our blogs, even after all of our married years we are still learning about each other.
    No doubt she will not be surprised to discover the “not so hidden secrets of your marriage” (you know, the basic D/s dynamic that just comes through) and she’ll understand why your son throws her over his shoulder when she’s difficult. Obviously that manly part of his is something that she loves. Don’t we all?
    I think you two will “get along famously”! ;-)

    *Secrets to a Happy Marriage, an interview with Finding Sara, this week on Oprah*
    Yes!! I would tune in! But then again, I’ve probably read it here on your blog already! :-)

  29. But Sara,
    Isn’t controversy what makes a good talk show?? Don’t they love to draw blood on those shows??? I think you could give Oprah a run for her money. Too bad you’d have to come out of the closet first.

    And….I suspect that your son is a chip off the ole block…..(and so is she!)
    Kady

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